11:43 PM
You should
put yourself the following questions: Are you
sincere in your heart in front of God and do you desire to support the
biblical truth or you want to cover the Biblical truth because of your
materialistic reasons, because of your desire of comfort or lack of desire of
sacrifice for the duties estabilished by the Lord regarding childbearing ?
Me:
Dear Brother, Thank you for your comments again. I am well aware of the truth
of the bible so I do not need any reasons to twist the truth of the bible. I just
want everyone to know truth but not human preaching or added external teaching.
I understood
that you have many misunderstanding about what I was trying to communicate with
you. Probably it would be a lot better, if we can take time to talk in
telephone or you can visit me to talk again these issues. You don’t need to be
afraid to talk with me, because I felt like you are afraid with me. When I called
you last you did not receive. When I sent sms you do not respond me. Are you
afraid of me? I am not your enemy, still I tell you that you are my a brother in Christ. You
are most welcome to come to my house for talk.
You should
understand the truth about childbearing, in 1 Timothy 2. 15 ''But the women
will be saved through childbirthing – if they continue in faith, love and
holiness with propriety.'' It refers to physical children, and not to the
spiritual. If we take it spiritually, and man can give birth to the spiritual
children. ( Again the paradigm of salvation, '' woman will be saved'' she is
not saved yet from the final persepective of reaching the heaven, the salvation
is conditioned by our struggle, it is not a final process, as I mentioned it is
a polisemantic meaning) But it is a literary perspective, otherwise Paul would
not have mentioned in the context the noun ''woman'' and the pronoun ''she''
which refers to the woman. She refers to woman, it is feminine gender. Here it
i not included man.
Me:
I understand well she means she and woman means singular woman and women means
plural women. If you want to make interpretation please make interpretation
what means the word save and saved used in 1
timothy 2:15 and 1 Timothy 4:16 Watch your life and doctrine closely.
Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your
hearers.
Do you know
the first commendsment given to people by God ? In Genesis, 1. 28 ''Be fruitful
and increase in number and fill the earth.'' This is the first commendsment
given people by God which means to increase in number and to fill the earth
with children. That also means that it is forbidden by God to resort to birth
control. What do people do in the current moment in Europe ? They don't fulfill
this commendsment but contrarily, Europe is running out of humane population
and it is substituded by abnormal, violent and murdurous people (this is the
work of the devil to deceive Europeans who are nonviolent and not to have
children, only 1-2, and the violent people who are violent and murdurous to
have several children from several wives )
- this is the unique crisis of under population caused by the Sexual
revolution which people undertook.
Me:
Brother this is your personal or human interpretation, the interpretation which
you made from Genesis 1:28 is not biblical. The commandment of God to multiply
and fill the earth was specifically given to Adam and eve not every human being.
If not, please show me one and single biblical proof that this commandment is
given to every human beings on earth.
We
know that God commanded Adam and Eve to multiply and fill the earth but, why
did Adam and Eve not have any children
before they fell into sin? They had all possibility to have millions of kids
and fill the Earth. They were sinless and made to live forever. Why did not
they produce any kids before the fall? They stayed without child until they
fell into sin, was not that sin to stay childless?
If
the commandment of multiplying and filling the earth was meant for salvation of
the woman Eve- why was this commandment given while she was sinless but not
after she committed the sin? Was eve saved by child bearing of Cain, Abel, Seth
and some other? Any answers of such questions?
You said
that we should be proud of the fact violent people by emigrating will dominate
Europe by their migration as a result of Europeans' birth control resulting 1-2
children per family and culminating with martyrdom of christianity. If it will
take place and you practiced birth control and thouse who do it you will die of
your guilt and their guilt, because you and they did not fullfil the first
commendsment mentioned.
Me: Your saying proves that you are really afraid
of these violent Muslims who entered Europe because you are afraid of dying.
Remember I have told you before as well that if Muslims are going to persecute
and kill you and me, it is not because
we have less children but it is because of our faith in Christ –John 15:
20 Remember
what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted
me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey
yours also. Matthew 10:22,2 timothy 3:12, Furthermore he told in Matthew 10:28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.
Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
If
persecution of torture and killing is expected for the believers or the
followers of Christ, we all who say Christians should be ready even to die for
the sake of Christ. If we are not ready we cannot be his disciples. Please read
what Jesus said: Luke 14:27 And whoever
does not carry their cross and follow me cannot be my disciple. Cross represents the death of a person and Carrying
own cross means being ready to die. Jesus carried his own cross which means he
knew he will die for the sinners and he was ready to die. John 19: 17 Carrying his (Jesus) own
cross, he went out to the place of the Skull (which in Aramaic is called
Golgotha). 18 There they crucified him, and with him two others—one on each
side and Jesus in the middle. Who were those who
persecuted him? They were earthly people, the righteous people of the earth,
the righteous Jews and roman soldiers. Why God allowed Jesus to be persecuted
and died on cross? It is for our salvation.
Were
all the apostles ready to die on the hands of violent people for the sake of Christ?
Yes they were, except John the brother of James, who died naturally, all were
martyred. Paul said he was ready to die for the sake of Christ. Acts 21: 13 Then Paul answered,
“Why are you weeping and breaking my heart? I am
ready not only to be bound, but also to die in Jerusalem for the name of the
Lord Jesus.” Why does God allow Christians to die on the hand of persecutors?
Basically for two reasons- one is because God wants to test our faith. Second
is to accomplish his plans through the deaths.
You
are saying that if Christians will not bear many children, then Muslims will occupy
Europe and they will persecute us and kill us. Your intention behind getting
many children is to compete with Muslims in population and supress them but not
for to bring glory to God. Where in the bible is mentioned that the will of God
after bearing many children is to supress the number of Muslims or violent
people? Do you really want to live like Muslims live? If you have this faith
please go ahead and live like them!
Do
you remember what Jesus said in Matthew 13:24-30 parables of wheat and weeds? Vs. 30 let both grow together until
the harvest!... and who are these weeds? Are they not sons of evil?(37-39). Who allowed evil people
to be with us? Is that you and me or God? Of course God! If he allowed these
evil people to grow then how can we supress them and remove then out of our
place? No, it is only God who can supress them or destroy them but not us. In
Europe many Muslims migrated, why? Is that because of you and me? No, it is
because The Government gave permission them to reside. Why God allowed the evil
people to reside in Europe, God has a purpose over everything. Was pharaoh not
cruel? Did God not raise him for a good purpose?- Romans 9:7 Do you think that you can
make Europe a better place, a place without evil people? If you think please go
ahead. But I know you can’t. Unless God does you can do nothing. But remember
more what Jesus said, in the end time there will be wars… Matthew 24:6, Are we not living in the
last days? If there are no evil people, how is it possible to be wars and
rumours of wars?
Many times
you said that we did good deeds to show people that we had love for others. The
Bible teaches us to do good deeds in secret Matthew 6. verses 3-4 « But when
you give to the needy, do not let your left hand let know what your right hand
is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your father who sees what
is done in secret, will reward you. »
Me: Brother this is your misunderstanding of the message which I
wrote to you. I have told you that our good works are to be seen by other
people for the glory of God, but not to be proud of how good you did or how
good you are! You mentioned the verses from Matthew
6:3-4, but what is the context of this verse?
Why did Jesus tell to give in secrete? It is because people like to show to
other people how good they are and be proud of their righteousness. If that is
the intention behind your giving, then don’t do that rather give in secrete!
This is what Jesus simply said. What do you mean by good deed? Is that only
giving to the needy? No there are many other godly things which can be thought,
spoken and done. All of them are good deeds. Do you believe that you are light
of the world?( Matthew 5:14 “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill
cannot be hidden.) if you are light, what is the
light supposed to do? Isn’t it supposed to shine? To shine where? Under the
table? No- the light shall shine before men! Please read Matthew 5:
15 Neither do people
light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it
gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In
the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father
in heaven. Do you see the reason why
we should shine before other people? Isn’t it for the glory of God?
Let
us think further, What does this light represent? Does not the word of God say
the light of the people is the life Jesus had? Please read John 1:4, Do you believe that the life of Jesus is in you now? I don’t know
what you believe, but I believe I have. Paul said that Christ lives in him –Galatians 2:19-20, I believe the same. If Christ lives in us, his life should be
revealed in our body, in our living . 2cor. 4:10, The life of Christ should
not be hidden in us! The life of Christ is full of good thought, good
messages, good deeds. They are to be revealed and seen by other for God’s
glory. If we do not live the life of Christ, how shall people know that we are
Christians? Can people see inside the hearts of Christians without visible
evidence? Please read: John 13:35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you
love one another.” John 15:8 This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing
yourselves to be my disciples. Whatever we do, let our true attitudes, gentleness
or the fruit be evident to everyone for his glory!( Philippians
4:5 Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near)
The Bible
speaks about good deeds thousends of times, more than baptism, grace, and other
things.
Me:
Nothing wrong in bible which speaks of 1000 times good deeds!
3. For
nothing, you try to persuade me and other persons that it is right to practice
birth control God sees your heart and
your intentions. God sees if you are in interested in entering the strait gate,
or if you desire only the truth or you intend to cover the truth in order to
support your earthy interests to be free, to be comfortable, without famlily
obligation which God asigned to everyone who marry. Anyway the truth remains
truth, you cannot change it.
Me:Dear brother, I neither changed the truth nor I tried to
change the truth or somebody. It is your misunderstanding that I tried to
change the truth. However I want everyone to know the truth. I have never told
you that it is right or wrong to practice birth control in our conversations.
Please don’t impose lies over me. Simply I have said that the number of
children of a family depends on their personal faith, relationship with God and
situations. It is because the commandment of being multiplied and filling the
earth is not meant for every human being. Nobody in the New Testament taught
that every human being shall have many children and fill the earth. If filling
the earth was the biggest necessity and commandment to everyone on this earth,
please tell me why did Paul wish all men being like him single? Read 1 Cor.
7:7-8,26-28. If what Paul told here is the truth, then you reject this truth of
Paul with your understanding and saying.
The things
are very clear, certain category of Christians, especially the Western
Christians copied the birth control from Sexual Revolution 1960. Before that
time no body practiced birth control, and you try to find Biblical arguments by
distorting the Biblical verses with help of other verses which has no connction
between them. The apostols did not practice birth control. You can read the
history of the church. And all the christians did not practice it til Sexual
Revolution. It is almost 2000 years. The Bible say that in the lattest days
there will be many heresies, as we are in the lattest days. You grant no
respect the former generation who paid with blood the message of the gospel.
Me:
Why are you talking again and again the birth control and sexual revolution? I
have nothing to do with sexual revolution and I don’t want to spend time for
which is not my interest and which does not have any profit.
You can ask
your parents-in-law, how many children had every family in their generation.
People who
support the idea of birth control will always have only 1-2 children. If the
old generation had had the same attitude, then David would not have existed,
since he is tenth child born in his family. Also, Jesus had six brothers.
Me:Brother if you want to follow how your grandfather did, how
they lived, if your faith says you to do that, please go ahead and live
according to your faith. If you can not manage to live according what you
believed, then you will be judged by your faith. I personally do not follow the
life style of my forefather, but of Jesus and his disciples. All the people of
the earth they followed Adam and Sin entered through Adam to all because all
did sin! Because they followed people not God! Please read Romans 5:12, I do not
want to be the same. I will walk in the path of Jesus and in his spirit.
You were
recently at the church in Lyngdal in a sunday, if you could have understood
Romanian, you would have heard that the sermons of thouse 3 brothers who
preached were mainly about the false teaching of birth control how people
imported this false teaching from the sinful wordly movements.
Me:
Dorin could not translate everything about what was being preached. But I
understood their understanding through my wife about children. Well if you talk
about true and false teaching, the truth should be measured by the biblical
parameters. if someone says something is
true just because they think so, I don’t accept such truths based on human
understanding or thoughts. Some people think that physical children which we
bear are God’s heritage or eternal blessing based on wrong understanding of
Psalm 127:3-5. Some truth is hidden in this passage, I believe just the truth
not human thoughts. The truth is the children whom we bear physically are a
blessing from god but this blessing is not eternal blessing, just an earthly
blessing. This blessing will be eternal only when our children receive Christ
in their life. If you will have 15
children and if they will go to hell where is your blessing then? your blessing
remains only for the earth not for the heaven. Therefore I say, it is not how
many children you could bear, but it is how many children of you came to
Christ, decides whether you are blessed eternally or not.
Jesus
ordered us to do charitable deeds. It is written in Matthew 25. 33-46. Jesus
continuously criticised the people who did not do good deeds. Jesus did good
deeds to all people. Also, one of the first fruit of repentance are good deeds
(Luke 3.11), proclaimed by John the baptist.
Me: I have not said you that Jesus did not tell people to do
good and also I have not said that we should not bear the fruit of repentance.
Therefore I agree with you here.
As regard
type of interpretation of theology, you got the message of salvation from Western
christians, which are liberal, they changed drastically unlike their parents
and grand-parents. There are still few old Western christians who deplore the
spiritual situation of the Western churches which are spiritually degraded. You
have inspired from them and you think through their eyes and you try to find
Biblical arguments to justify their liberalism.
Me: Brother whatever you said here is a lie. I do not go after
any people or denomination to understand the message of bible like you are used
to. I just read bible, meditate on it day and night, the Holy Spirit reveals me
his truth. I have already told you that I do not have anything to do western or
Romanian or eastern theology. I know these theologies do not save me. I just
care what it is revealed in the bible. If I say something as truth I speak from
bible not from outside. Please do not throw me into the group which I do not
belong to!
It is sad
that some christians from Romania and other countries who originate from the
church with good teaching are agree partially or totally with the spiritually
degraded teaching of the Norwegians or even go to Norwegian churches, or they
make Norwegian friends in order to get materialistic advantages, and thus
little by litte they change their good teaching from their country with sinful
culture and sinful mode of living and they become asimilated like them. In
other words they compromise their true faith with liberal and false faith taken
from Norwegians for the materialistic things.
Me:
You tried to judge people’s action but you did not judge right. Therefore you
need to read what Jesus said. John 7:24 Stop judging by
mere appearances, but instead judge correctly.”
Is
it wrong to go to Norwegian church? Is it wrong to make Norwegian friend? Why
did you come to Norway? Is that only to earn money? If so then you are serving
not Christ but money.
Do
You think you are only the true Christian and other are not? You think only the
Christians from Romania are going to heaven and other to hell? Where in the
bible does say so? Can you tell me, how many Christians in Romania are corrupt?
How many Christians in Romania are divorced, adulterous, liars, murderers? How
many Christians in Romania are ready to die for Christ? How many Christians in
Romania went out to preach the gospel, make disciple and baptize new people
entering the kingdom of god? If you can give me the proof that Christians from
Romania are blameless in those things, then I will agree with what you have
said about it. Otherwise it is just a lie but you still believe as truth.
If you are
interested in the Biblical truth, you can find correct interpretations of the
Bible from the church where your wife grew.
Me:
Brother only the false teacher or false Christians say that truth is here and
there, Christ is here and there. The true Christians say that truth is in the
word of God -John 17:17 and in Jesus Christ.
You are
always defending birth control which you learned from thouse who communicated
you the message of gospel and they took it from Sexual revolution 1960. If the
Sexual revolution 1960 had had not taken place, nobody would have thought of
practicing birth control.
Me:
You lie here as well. When did I defend the birth control? You are blaming me
that I learnt from this and that.. How did you know such thing which I never
told to you? If you want to know the truth, I never knew about the sexual
revolution before you told me! I have never desired to know this topic even
after you told to me because I do not have something to do with it.
They did not
take it from Bible. If you fear the Lord you woluld read this two psalm 128 and
127 attentively about childbearing the Psalm 127 and 128 exemplify very clear
the literal truth about childbearing. And Psalm 128. 3-4 « your wife will be
like a fruitful vine within your house; your sons will be like olive shoots
round your table. This is the man blessed by who fears the Lord. You have not
read them attentively til now. »
Me:
Brother if you think you alone read bible and other did not, then you have a
problem in your head!
As regard
Liberal theology and strait gate, you must read about these phenomena. As
mentioned, do not be sad but you are not familiar with many realities which
happens in Europe and in world. Again you do not understand what is literature
and linguistics. You should find out what is paradigmatics.
Why do you
exclude the explantions of Jesus in the parable of the sheep and goats (Matthew
25, verses 33-46 regarding the reasons for which Jesus separated the goats from
sheep and you come with your own explanations which are not in text ?. Jesus
explains clear that goats did not do good deeds. Why do you distort the
Biblical verses with other verses taken from other contexts which have no
connection with the context of the parable of sheep and goats. The same you
also did with explations of the strait gate. It is simple to understand:
conservative churches go on the strait gate, the liberal churches go on the
wide gate:
Me:
I see you know the best out of the bible but still you can not understand the
truth. You are like the Pharisee who search the scripture day and night but
does not know what the truth is and accept the truth. You just know to blame other, accuse other
telling he/she is false and their teaching or faith is false but you do not
know to explain with perfect meaning and context. I did not use my own word to
explain but bible itself to explain the text still you do not understand, what
can I do? Pease pray to god that he will provide Holy Spirit for you to
understand.
Matthew 7.
13-14 Enter through narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the road
that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate
and narrow the gate that leads to life, and anly a few find it. Pay attention
how few people are today still conservative and do not practice birth control.
You are very
confused as regards the sin. Hebrew 10. 26 '' If we deliberatelly keep on
sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sin
is left. '' It is understood very clear that whatever if somebody is low
spiritual or strong and if he/she commit adultery or badly sins cannot receive
forgiveness from the Lord. You do not understand that this movement of teaching
that every sin is forgiven is false.
Me:
Who said that I am confused with this verse? Neither I said that to you nor I
am confused. May be devil is communication with you. When did I say that every sin committed after
being a true Christian is forgiven? Rather I have told you from bible that the
one born again Christian will never keep on practicing sin. 1 John 5:18 We know
that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the One who was born of God
keeps them safe, and the evil one cannot harm them Born again Christian will
never blasphemy holy spirit. If someone so called Christian does such sins will
not be forgiven.
Read 2 Peter
chapter 2, verses 20, 21 and 22.
Those who
associate with Lutheran churches in which women are priests and they preach do
not do good. You know this is not biblical. Or you, at most verses in Bible,
struggle to misinterpret in order to justify certain false doctrines and
heresies.
Me:
Brother, please do not do the job of Satan because only the worker of satan
does this job. You just blame without any right judgment, right proofs, the
proof from bible. You think many things are wrong because you just think so.
Your thought is not God’s. Know the thought of God first and then say which is right
or wrong. If you really want to keep yourself away from such sinners then you
are not supposed to be on earth. You are supposed to be in heaven aren’t you?
Why are you here on earth, have you thought about it? Why did Jesus come on
earth among sinners, have you thought about that? If you see something is wrong
in Lutheran church, as a Christian, your responsibility is to go there, be
friend and correct the wrong, why don’t you do that? But for you it is very
easy to say he is sinner, she is sinner, than doing good, right? If you hear an
interpretation from human mind , you say that is right and if you allow bible
itself to speak then it is wrong? Brother awake, this is work of devil! Jesus
was also blamed by Pharisees that he did devils work in Matthew 12:24 while he
was working God’s work. If I allow bible, The God’s word to interpret a topic,
then you say it is misinterpretation or wrong! Clear for me that this is from
devil.
It is not
wise to post on your blog what we discuss. The lining is washed inside. Do you
think that these things build other people ?
Me:
I have a good reason to post in the blog and this is my private reason. If
someone got hurt or not built spiritually from my sayings, let me know please,
I will remove
It is good
to seek in the history of the Western churches to see how many children they
had before the Sexual revolution 1960. If you are interested in truth.
Me:
I see forward not backward. If there is something essential truth which I must
learn, I see, otherwise I don’t. I give the Bible, God’s word the first
priority.
If you
practice birth control, you prevent the birth of some souls who God intends to
come on earth. It is good to repent of it in order to get forgiveness. It is
also good to seek the truth, be humble, and repent of what it is not good.
Me:
It is my private thing, that I am not supposed to share with anyone except God
and my wife. You should not worry of my private thing. You do not need to know
what I do and what I do not do in the bed. God knows very clear. That is
enough. If you have seen that I have used pills, or vaccines, or aborted kids
with your eyes, then come to me and we can talk about it otherwise there is no
other reason to talk with you about such private issues.
Finally pay
attention to this verses 2 Peter 3. 15-16 ''Bear in mind that our Lord's
patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote to you with
wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking
in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to
understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other
Scriptures, to their own distruction.'' in order not deceive yourself and
others.
Me:
I am very aware of God’s word. 2 Peter 3:15-16 is true. You mean I should pay
attention because I have distorted scripture? If you think so please think
yourself first then think of me or other the second . Jesus saved us sinner
with his blood, but you insist that man is saved by faith plus deed and you
miss value blood of Jesus. You have insulted the grace and the spirit of grace
saying we have to obey laws to be saved! You preach different gospel than Paul
preached. Paul said that the gospel which is different than his is not gospel
at all! Read Galatioans chapter 1, 2 and 3. He explained so simple, why still
you can not understand?
You support
the idea that every sin can be forgiven, inclusive adultury. It is fals. In
Matthew 12.31 …. « every sin and blasphemy will be fogiven men, but blasphemy
against the Spirit will not be forgiven. » It refers to the unfaithful men
which are not yet repented, not to the people who started the way of salvation.
Again this is a matter of different context. This is matter of paradigmatics
which studies different contexts.
Me:
I have not said that if you keep on committing adultery, the sin of adultery
will be forgiven, but I have said if someone repents truly, all sins except the
sin of blasphemy of holy spirit will be forgiven. Please read 1 John 1:9
As regard
sin: whatever sobody is weak or strong spiritual. He / she cannot be forgiven,
if one sins deliberately after he / she came to repetance by being baptised. 2
Peter 2.21.''It would have been better for them not known the rightniousness.''
Me:
Brother before you say this you should think first who you are. If you are
honest with yourself, tell me one thing. Did you know something in your mind
good to do but you did not do? Is that a sin according to word of God? Please
read James
4:17 If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn't do it, it is
sin for them. How many times didn’t you do good which you were supposed to
do? One time, two times, 4 times or more?
Sin is sin. Do you think your sin of not doing good is forgiven? How
many times did you do wrong doing in your life? Is not all wrongdoing sin? One time, two time, three times or more? If
you have done many times after knowing Christ, sin is sin then your sins are
not forgiven!! I don’t think you are perfect man. If you think you are a
perfect man without doing errors in life, then I have right word, right
judgement for you, that you are a Pharisee, hypocrite of our time. You do not
have truth in you. Please read 1 John 1:8
Devil's plan
is to deceive the faithful by believing that all the sins are forgiven so that
they may sin and to live a life with no difference unlike the world.
Me:
Did I teach some one that one should live in sin? If I have said please give me
proof.
As regards
who sins grave sins such as adultery deceives himself that cannot be forgiven.
In Luke 6. 46 Jesus speaks clear of two kinds of built houses: on the sand and
on the rock. Matthew 7.21 « Not everyone who say to me, Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven,
but only who does the will of my father who is in heaven. » So it happens to
those commit adultery after came to repetance.
Me:
Let us imagine ,If you live a life being adulterous all your life after
declaring that you are a Christian, then you are not a true Christian, if you
are not true Christian, then your sins are not forgiven, it is so simple to
understand. You are still stumbling on the same point. But if you have
committed such sin when you did not know God or if you did such sin just once
without intention but because of weakness in flesh, if that person repents
truly, the sin is forgiven this is what I said.
Put yourself
another question sincere in front of God: do you not really belong to this
category of people ? 2 Timothey 3.7 «
always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth. »
Me:
What about you brother? Did you judge yourself with this verse?, I see you are
the one who does not understand the word of God and acknowledge the truth. I
just put the words of God in every saying as proof but you say false, wrong
etc. who can say wrong or false to the
word of God? Only devil and his followers.
Also, 2
Timothey 4. 3-4 « For the time will come when men will not put up with sound
doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a
great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will
turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside the myths. »
Me:
I know this verse well. I do not have any teachers around me except Bible and
Holy spirit, but I saw you have number of teachers around you. The teachers from Romania, teachers from
lyndal and so called holy spirit guided preacher. Please think about yourself,
if you are just holding the gospel of Jesus which Paul preached or not!
Bible
continuosly warns us about the heresies and false teaching in the lattest days.
Do you consider you have more light than the old people who taught us the faith
?
Me:
Which old people you are talking about? Old man from Romania? I believe that neither
me, neither you nor old people of Romania have more light. It is holy spirit
who has the light of the scripture. If
God wants he can make a child also wiser than any other people. Revelation of
God’s word does not depend up on how old you are or how long you have served
for God! It completely depends up on God whom he wants to be wise. Within two
years of conversion of Paul into Christianity, God revealed many truths and
secrets into depth to him. It was not his experience but holy spirit taught him.
Not at all,
the current young generations are less and less enlightened. The situation is
exactly like in Judges 2.10 « After that
whole generation had been gather to their fathers, another generation grew up,
who knew neither the Lord, nor what he had done for Israel. » You can search in
Bible to see what happened with this generation, it seems to happen exactly
with Europe.
Be careful
about the teaching you give to the people because you will be responsable, you
have more responsability than a doctor has with his patients, since you
implicate in a work which is with souls of people.
Me:
I am careful with my teaching brother. I wish everyone who realized themselves
as sinners be saved through repentance, by faith in lord Jesus Christ. I
do not wish any one to be in hell and I
do not teach them to go to hell. It is you who teaches that salvation depends
up on our good deed, therefore your teaching rejects the grace and insults the
spirit of grace. Please be careful. If some one goes to hell because of your
teaching the punishment will be severe!
When you
will go to the coutry of your wife, you can learn true faith from brothers from
the church from there.
Me:
Thank you for the suggestion: I have told you, that I do not see people to find
the truth, I see god, Jesus, Holy spirit to know the truth. That is my first
priority. People my second priority.